Social Networking and Community

posted 02/23/08 by Rick Webb

Oh man. Just when you thought you were getting a handle on this whole internet thing. Just when internet video started to… like.. you know, become something you could get your head around. Just when internet video became popular enough that you could really start to GET this internet thing. Lower res? 2-3 minutes long? Lower production values? Get it. Check. Priced accordingly. Banners are like billboards, viral videos are like infomercials. I get it now. Oh, if only it were that simple. Sadly, things keep on changing.

The Super Simple Overview

Social Networking. Community. Social Media. We’re not super big fans of the term “social media,” but.. it’s all related, we suppose (as an aside, we’re not a big fan of the term “earned media,” but that is the subject of some whole future blog post.
One day, somewhere around 2004 or so, people started friending each other on the internet. Friendster first, then MySpace, then Facebook, and a million others along the way (personally, we like to give props to Livejournal, which has never gotten its due as groundbreaking in this space). Friending each other on the internet. What did that mean? Why is that important?
I think the simplest way to look at it is through the prism of Viral Marketing. Viral marketing spreads a marketing message through a friend network – people find something humorous, so they pass on a link to someone else to share it with a friend, so that they can have a shared, common experience. Before social networking, for most people, this was maybe an email, or an IM to someone. Maybe they’d email it to two or three people. But as they “friended up” with more and more people on the internet, tools were developed to quickly, easily propagate that message (or “meme”) to many people at once.
And not only that, other people could see this happening, and measure the rate at which this happens. All sorts of interesting things come out of this. Whole maths and measurements about viral propagation speeds and online mavens and such fascinating stuff: what message move fastest? What sorts of people move the most messages? Who do people listen to the most?
There are a million ways to view this. Measuring the social graph. Niche and subcultural communities. Interconnected functionality (via Web 2.0 philosophies). There are a myriad of opinions on what value this provides to a brand. Whether it can be unlocked. Whether it’s worth advertising against. There’s a lot of money out there being placed on a lot of big bets. Will Facebook be worth its $10 billion valuation? Was Myspace worth $500 million? I mocked it at the time and in most ways, I was proven wrong, but I still maintain Rupert could have given me a tenth of that and I would have built a better MySpace, and Facebook has more than proven this viewpoint as at least viable.
We’re not especially in the game of placing the big entrepreneurial bets on developing communities that strive to aggregate large communities so they’re worth some money to the IACs of the world. We do, however, have a proven track record of aggregating audiences, and so of course we constantly endeavor to bring these skills to new areas that are of interest to marketing and advertising, and this, indeed, is one of those areas. We dabble, of course, on the community-as-startup side, but really, more than anything, we look for other ways to unlock value for our clients through social networking and community.
This area (and its cousin, user-generated content, UGC) is a scary area for marketers. Last year’s traditional party line about UGC and advertising was that marketers were nervous advertising against UGC because they didn’t know what sort of content they would be advertising next to. No one wants to put an ad next to a hate group’s fan page. I’ve always thought that inevitably these concerns would diminish for advertisers. The cynic in my notes that Hustler Magazine has no shortage of advertisers, and the naive optimistic citizen in me could have sworn there was supposed to be some separation between the editorial staff and the advertising staff at magazines, so this should have been a big problem in the magazine world too, right? But I think my friend Patty Mitchell put it best: “you’re in a parking lot, having a fight with your girlfriend, and you’re breaking up. And over at the side of the parking lot is a billboard for Verizon. Do you blame Verizon for your breakup? No. Life happens. And advertising is there. We’re used to it.” My views are probably optimistic, of course, as the recent acknowledgments from Google about difficulties advertising against Myspace and Youtube suggest. Still, though, if I were in the media planning business, I’d recommend you take advantage of other brands’ nervousness and reap the benefits of low CPMs. But, then again, I am not in the media planning business.
Yeah, so it’s scary. Where we excel is making it just a little bit less scary. Harnessing UGC for your brand, without potentially exposing it to damaging messages – such as our work on the M&Ms world. Or aggregating a community around a holistic set of principles and beliefs, and offering them utility and value, such as the branded utility + community approach we take with Kashi.com. Or finding a way for people to feel like they’re part of a community, without them going and being able to upload a bunch of porn, like our work for the Webby Awards and the People’s Choice awards.
We constantly look for ways, through our marketing R&D prism, to incrementally improve the social networking and community landscape for our clients. It’s an ongoing process, and one in which you’ll see a lot of activity from us in the coming months.

Here are some recent posts from our employees about Social Networking and Community:

Colin Nagy

Hello! Today we are ridiculously excited to announce that Colin Nagy has joined The Barbarian Group as our first Executive Director of Earned Media. Colin joins us most recently from the MDC-backed Attention, where he was a partner.
Not too long ago, our friend Brian Morrissey over at AdWeek wrote a longish article about digital agencies expanding into the reams of earned media and PR, and it started out with some quotes from me. We said then we were looking to hire earned media specialists, and getting Colin to head those efforts is a real stroke of luck for us.
Many earned media services we have offered, in the past, in an ad hoc fashion. We are now looking to formalize that and bring in some expertise not just in earned media tactics (which we’ve been handy at already, given our history of viral marketing on the web), but also experience in departmental organization, communicating with clients and fostering the discipline throughout our company. With Colin joining us today we are formalizing our earned media offerings into their own department.
So join me in welcoming Colin on his first day, and if you have any social media or PR assignments, give us a call! ;)

Foursquare, premium advertising, and agencies

note: This first appeared on my Tumblr last week. Usually they auto-import. Not sure why this one did not.
With the publishing of Brian’s article, it is probably a good time to announce to you all that I am lucky enough and thrilled to be part of Foursquare’s recent series B round as an angel investor.
I’ve been friends with the Foursquare gang (and Harry especially) for a long time, and I am super excited and proud of what those guys accomplish as they near their 2 millionth user. I’m geekily proud to say my user number is somewhere in the mid 2 digits, and generally dismissive of those who willfully fail to see Foursquare’s potential. The most common refrain seems to be “I don’t like it for me,” or “no one will ever use this,” which bely an extraordinary lack of curiosity on the critics part: I don’t particularly love football, for example, but I am endlessly fascinated with how popular it is, and am constantly curious as to why. Thirty million Elvis fans and whatnot. Two million people signing up for anything in such a short time is a fairly impressive feat, and when you look at the growth rate, it’s doubly impressive. Whether you use it or not, someone is, and if you consider yourself at all a connoisseur of digital trends, it’d probably be worthwhile to find out why.
ANYHOO, my angel investment should probably be disclosed as I comment on Brian Morrissey’s rather excellent recent article on agency’s endeavors in trying to work with Foursquare. This disclosure perhaps taints my experience (though it’s only a couple weeks old), but I can say that Foursquare has been very responsive to our agency’s inquiries, both on behalf of clients, and for our own hobbyist pursuits.
I can also say, however, that I’ve seen eye-to-eye with Dens et al about the merits and potential of the API for a long time, and we’ve generally been exploring marketing solutions that use the API rather than trying to get Foursquare to give one of our clients a badge. We get what they are offering, what they are going for, and we try to align that with our clients’ needs.
I do think, though, this article points to a larger trend I have been yammering away about for a couple of years now. Indeed, I did a fairly comprehensive presentation about this not so long ago at The Economist, and I think it’s a good time to revisit it.
Basically, history and circumstances have driven us to a place where engagement and unique, custom offerings are all the rage. And yet, the media agencies still control the dollars. SO: who thinks up and executes some awesome new marketing implementation on the Foursquare API? The media agency is bereft of any smart creatives and technologists who can think up and develop these, yet they are the ones trying to “do the deals” with Foursquare. It is undoubtedly many of these that Brian was referring to when he said “One agency representing a major package-goods client said the company put the onus on the brand and agency to find the best way to use the service.” Well why not? An agency thinking up ideas? Quelle horreur! I’d ask that agency if they have delved into the API message boards, but i have a sneaking suspicion that agency would not know what that question meant.
Creative agencies get this and are brimming with ideas, but generally don’t control the purse strings. Budgets are set at a higher level. Media plans need to be filled, yadda yadda.
Foursquare’s an awesome place to work for just about everyone but… a marketing creative. You’re a crack art director. Do you want to work at Crispin, or at Foursquare thinking up alternatives to badges? You could do that and a million other things at a sweet agency. And try getting developers at a major new hip startup to take time off of working on the product, or scalability, or the real meaty issues that drew them to the company to begin with in order to work on a snickers campaign implementation.
In short, none of the traditional agency models or other parties in the mix is the right entity to think up, negotiate and execute custom & premium ad deals with publishers. And these are the deals that everyone wants.
I believe there is a real opening here that can point the way for the creative agency in a world of earned media and premium marketing opportunities. And, as I’ve been saying for years at various conferences, I believe the chickens are coming home to roost from the great media-creative schism of yesteryear. Earned media will kill it off. Media’s gotta come back in-house. It’s not a question of if anymore, but when.
Finally, I think it’s still up in the air which side of the equation – the publisher or the agency – will be on the hook to “think this stuff up.” It is a lazy (and most probably a media) agency that expects the publisher to do it for them. But that process may well prevail. Media agencies are powerful, and clearly they’d prefer the publishers to think this shit up for them since, well, they jettisoned their creatives 30 years ago. And perhaps then, over time, d_igital creative agencies will become the vendors not to the brands but to the publishers_, and help them provide these ideas. Indeed, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that our client base now includes so many publishers (The Economist, Viacom, Digg, CNN, etc). And I’ve certainly had no shortage of conversations with publishers confirming the merits of this line of thinking.
It certainly seems plausible, and increasingly so as the years go by. The economics aren’t quite aligning yet – publishers are definitely in desperate need of these services and are willing to pay, but they aren’t willing to pay “brand” rates yet. Furthermore, a sales-commission model seems to be preferred: you give us ideas, and if we win you win. This might work, it might not. But hey – the entire economics of advertising are washing out right now anyhow. No reason to think this particular paradigm won’t be the one that rises to the top.
Conversely, rather than the publishers becoming the clients, It’s also plausible that a slight modification on the “agency of the future” model that R/GA pushes could work – provided media is folded back in, and technology isn’t off-shored, and they can keep the best developers and stay abreast of the technology trends (rather than having those developers go work at, well, Foursquare). That could work, yes. And yet, it’s interesting. R/GA has an amazing video about how the agency world got to where it is now, and how they are a new model for it. It’s very compelling. would posit however that it leaves out a critical, and increasingly important component: the publisher.
This isn’t the old days. We don’t make one thing for multiple publishers anymore. Every publisher has their own API, their own best practices to engage with the customer. While we’ve traditionally had a advertiser-publisher firewall in the US, it is not so far-fetched to see this crumbling. It’s been gone in some countries (think Japan/Dentsu) for ages, and Google has been chipping away at it in the US for a long while.
In any case, Brian’s article is a breath of fresh air for me, and illustrates where we’ve been going with all this work for publishers, I think. If I may be so bold, I’d recommend a quick review of my old talk at _The Economist _for a good historical overview of how we got here and where things are going – I’ve-posted it here.

Gatorade Mission Control

Check out what Gatorade is doing on the Social Media front.

NBA Twitter Playoffs

Twitter playoffs captures what everyone is saying right now about the NBA playoffs. Nice!

Jane McGonigal: Gaming can make a better world

Confirmation that doing bad things in GTA Chinatown Wars is good for mankind :)
Games like World of Warcraft give players the means to save worlds, and incentive to learn the habits of heroes. What if we could harness this gamer power to solve real-world problems? Jane McGonigal says we can, and explains how.

Launched! Kashi (again!)

SPOILER ALERT: You can always improve on something great!
We’re now in our third year of The Barbarian Group’s collaboration with Kashi. We’re calling this release a refresh rather than a redesign. To clarify, think about the project as a house. When you do a redesign, it’s like tearing down a home to its foundation and starting fresh. That’s not what was needed here, for our foundation was already stable, our website was already successful. Think of this release like remodeling a kitchen, it’s an improvement of what was working, and an optimization of what wasn’t. So we put on our thinking caps and many months later, we’ve surprised ourselves yet again!
The countless improvements to the site are too many to list, but some of our favorites include: a redesigned navigation system, a dynamic footer showing the current community activity, a vastly improved commenting system, a simplified sign up and log in system, an improved look and feel, and of course, a ton of IA and UX refinements. And that’s just what the user see’s. The site is faster, more enjoyable, easier to use, and most importantly, easier to find what you are looking for and more likely to discover things you didn’t know were here. On top of this, we are already working on a number awesome super secret features and updates to be launched soon, so stay tuned for those in the coming months!
We love this client, and we hope you enjoy the site!

All The Cool Kids Are Doing It

Public Service Announcement: I have joined the ranks of the lazybloggers. That is, I am now importing my Tumblr feed into my TBG blog, which contains the following:
As a result, my posts may be numerous, terse, nonsensical and/or random. Also, since I’m usually not using Tumblr itself to “reblog” content, items may not always properly attribute a source, but I’ll do my best to resolve that where it seems warranted. Otherwise it’s probably safe to assume that anything awesome or funny comes from Benjamin, Rick, Noah or some other Barbarian, and anything transit-related comes from Streetsblog.
Sorry in advance for the additional clutter. But hey, if you can’t beat ‘em join ‘em, right?

SVEDKA.com Bot Builder asks you to Bot Yourself

Many years from now (let’s say, 2033), the world will be a much sexier place. All of this strife and conflict and spam and Twitter outages will have been resolved, replaced by a wonderful, vodka-filled nonstop party. And SVEDKA is the uncontested president of that party. And everyone who’s anyone has given up their bodies and gone Bot.
Well, you don’t have to wait. The SVEDKA Bot Builder lets you create a perfect, silicone simulacrum of your sexy self, one that is more perfect than you could ever hope to be. Your Bot won’t age, won’t rust, and certainly won’t be hailing a cab at midnight because it has a 9 am meeting.
Building on the svelte SVEDKA.com, The Barbarian Group combined like Voltron with OddCast to create the SVEDKA Bot Builder, utilizing their way-futuristic character generation to make sure the Bots were as sexy as possible.
You can upgrade your new Bot bod with all sorts of useful tools, like rollerskate feet, wings, and an arm that’s an always-full martini. You can paint it, pose it, and even add some sick lowrider flames if you’re feeling fancy.
Once you’ve got your Bot perfected, you can make it do your bidding: say marginally titillating things with a voice-synthesized e-card, show off your shiny new physique on your Facebook profile, or save out some snapshots to use as profile pics on Twitter, AIM, or Friendster.com.
So go on! Get your Bot on – the future isn’t going to wait.